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Old 03-22-2017, 02:41 PM   #1
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Default Towing a Vista 19ERD

I have the opportunity to buy a 2015 Vista 19ERD with a WD hitch for $12,000. The camper is basically new. This summer we are taking a trip traveling from WI to Yellowstone NP (we will be putting on about 3,000 miles round trip). My tow vehicle is a 2008 Honda Ridgeline. It has a towing capacity of 5,000 Lbs. and hitch weight of 600 lbs. Technically I know the vehicle can pull it.

We have been looking at smaller campers like the R-pod. The R-pod is not as wide (6.5' wide), but it is almost as heavy (close to 2,800 lbs.). Again, I know that my vehicle can town it, I'm just trying to figure out if it's a good idea? From a towing standpoint, how much will I notice the extra 12" of width of the Vista? Will the wind resistance be a significant difference?

Any advice on towing the 19ERD with a V-6?
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Old 03-23-2017, 07:54 PM   #2
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I tow a somewhat larger trailer with a V-6, and my previous trailer was the same length but a little heavier than this one. Been towing full-height trailers with a minivan for 11 years now.

Advice: Invest in a good quality WD/anti-sway hitch. I'd be very wary of one that's thrown in at no/low cost on the purchase. (Equilizer, Reese Dual Cam, Reese's Equilizer knock-off (can't remember the name), and of course Hensley and ProPride are all good.) Get them to give you a discount on one of those that's equal to the price of the one they were going to throw in.

Watch your weights. It's very easy to load more weight into the trailer, or on the tongue, than your TV can handle. Check the weight limits for the axles and tires, and overall gross combined weight limit for your tow vehicle, and make sure you stay under. Best way to know that you're not over: Load up for a trip, including pets, family, clothes, etc... Stop off at a Cat Scale and get weighed. Cat Scales have three platforms. Position your tow vehicle so that the front tires are on platform 1, the rear tires on platform 2, and the trailer tires on platform 3. That will give you axle weights for front and rear of your TV (which you can add together for the total weight), the weight of the trailer without tongue, and you can get the total weight by adding all three together. Adjust as needed (next trip assuming you're close), and re-weigh every couple years. You could also invest in a tongue scale if you want to know how much the tongue weighs (couple hundred dollars). For safety, the tongue should weigh no less than 11%, and probably more like 14-15% of the total trailer weight. Too light a tongue is a serious hazard, and can cause devastatingly bad uncontrollable sway. Too heavy of a tongue and you'll overload the tow vehicle.

Don't be in a hurry. Keep your speed at 60mph or below. (Most TT tires are only rated for 65 mph max speed anyway.) When climbing mountains put your RPMs into your engine's power band and keep them there. Don't worry about your speed. You'll slow some as you climb and need to downshift to stay in the power band, but if you keep it there you'll still end up passing semis and larger trailers/RVs. On the down slope, let your car speed up to 65, then brake firmly to slow down quickly to around 50, then repeat. That gives your brakes time to cool while gravity accelerates you again and will help prevent brake fade.

Where's the power band? That depends on your engine. Toyota/Honda tend to be at higher RPMs than Ford. You'll be able to tell by just experimenting some to see where you have more power.
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Old 08-28-2017, 09:47 AM   #3
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I just joined the Owner's forum and saw your post. We just bought a Vista 19ERD a few days ago and are currently pulling it with a Tacoma. But we are going to change vehicles within the year and are considering a Ridgeline. I'm just curious about how the towing is, if you bought the Vista.
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I just joined the Owner's forum and saw your post. We just bought a Vista 19ERD a few days ago and are currently pulling it with a Tacoma. But we are going to change vehicles within the year and are considering a Ridgeline. I'm just curious about how the towing is, if you bought the Vista.
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Hi John,
I have a reverse question for you. I'm looking into buying a Vista 19ERD and have a 3rdgen 16' Tacoma. Are you having trouble pulling it with your Tacoma? I'm researching into dropping down from a 3800lb Jayco hybrid to reduce weight and would like to know how your Tacoma is performing while towing the 19ERD. My Tacoma does ok with my current TT but I wish I was pulling a bit less weight and the wind resistance is a little rough for the V6.

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Hi John,
I have a reverse question for you. I'm looking into buying a Vista 19ERD and have a 3rdgen 16' Tacoma. Are you having trouble pulling it with your Tacoma? I'm researching into dropping down from a 3800lb Jayco hybrid to reduce weight and would like to know how your Tacoma is performing while towing the 19ERD. My Tacoma does ok with my current TT but I wish I was pulling a bit less weight and the wind resistance is a little rough for the V6.

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I bought my camper only 3 weeks ago and have towed it about 150 miles. Some of that was steep terrain, but not up a mountain or anything. The Tacoma was easily up to the task. I never felt underpowered or like the engine was straining. More importantly for me the braking felt completely under control. Hope this was helpful.
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Yes that helps. I just got back from Florida and my Tacoma was downshifting and revving high with every little incline to keep it moving (I think wind resistance was a huge factor).

I also took it out west to Colorado last year and it pulled my current TT up and over the big mountains fine but I guess the more I travel the more the high revving struggling to keep it at 60mph bothers me.

Hence my reason for downsizing/looking for something lighter and more aerodynamic. I'm hoping this 19ERD fits the bill but the only thing I think it's missing is a lift (because it seems to sit pretty low) and an enclosed underbelly for the cold weather.

So how are you liking it so far?
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