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Old 09-20-2010, 03:22 PM   #1
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Default Trouble with ABS Controller.

On a trip to Myrtle Beach last week, our ABS and Brake dash idiot lights as well as the warning buzzer came on. We were able to get it to reset by stopping, shutting down the engine and waiting a couple of minutes. Everything would go along for maybe 100 miles and do it again.

Bessie is at IH right now awaiting a new Controller from Arvin Mentor, the manufacturer of the Controller. Seems IH believes it shorted somewhere and it is being returned to Arvin, who is making this good under warranty.

My folks at IH told me they have had a rash of these controllers giving up the ghost. My man at IH was on the phone with someone on Thursday when I dropped Bessie off about the same problem with his truck.

Anyone else had the problem?
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:52 PM   #2
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I believe Jimbob, one of the other members of our little group, just went through the exact same problem.



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Old 09-21-2010, 12:45 AM   #3
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My pal from the Republic of Texas is correct, had the exact same issue back in February-

We were heading back to Florida from South Carolina after visiting our granddaughter in St Judes in Memphis, when the warning lights and buzzer came on. We stopped, and it reset, but about a half hour later, on they came again. We pulled into a Wal Mart in beautiful Holly Springs, Mississippi, put a call into Coach Net, and they decided to err on the side of caution and ordered a free tow. We had to wait the night for the tow, and woke up the next morning to a four inch snowfall overnight-

Word of personal experience, Coach Net told me the closest dealer at the time, who was in Tupelo, Miss, about 45 miles away, wouldn't take the unit "because we were a motor home, and they didn't do motor homes." My pleas that I was in fact a bus chassis with a box attached fell on deaf ears, so we wound up being towed to a nice dealership in Columbus Mississippi, about 130 miles away.

They immediately diagnosed the problem as a failed brake controller unit, and they had one sent in UPS overnight and fixed it the next day, under full warranty. They stated that they had had lots of problems with the brake controller units in the local school bus fleet, and had replaced most of them in the fleet.

This was the second time, btw, that I have been told in no uncertain terms that International Dealers won't work on motor homes and have been refused service, despite my pleas.

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Old 09-21-2010, 09:04 AM   #4
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FYI, I had the same issue this past summer. We only have 11,000 miles so I was a bit surprised. Right now, our engine cooling fan drive has failed, (the fan stays on all the time) and we have been waiting for parts for quite some time.

This is our first RV, and I just wanted to remind those in my situation, to check the seals on the roof. I know Texas TC does this annually, and there have been a few posts about it, but if you haven't been on the roof in a while, check. I caught ours just in time, the front seal was getting quite bad. I put eterna bond tape on. Was a chore, but much better than water running down the walls.
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Old 09-24-2010, 03:26 AM   #5
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i just went through this 4 weeks ago . they warrantied the part but would not warranty the labor . My model is an 2008 i took delivery in 2007 only a 2 year warranty . The part was back ordered 3-5 weeks . It was fixed in three weeks tow plus labor was 1600.00 . How can u warranty a part that u know is failing and not warranty the labor
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Old 09-24-2010, 03:31 AM   #6
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There is also a service bulletin on the wiring harness to the controller but mine expired and i had to pay for the upgrade
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Old 04-29-2011, 05:27 PM   #7
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Default Re: Trouble with ABS Controller.

Well, add me to the list with the failed brake controller! Heading back from a diving meet with the kids two weeks ago at Univ of Tenn in Knoxville. About 30 minutes into the trip home and the lights and buzzer started. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences here I had a clue what it was... was able to reset a couple of times as mentioned by Nailerman and made it home. Was at IH dealer here for two weeks and I picked it up today - good to go. Still under warranty so no charge (told me the controller is a $4000 part). They have also replaced the Fan Clutch for me and updated the computer - my experience so far with IH has been outstanding!

To be honest, even when I get frustrated with the silly things I think Gulfstream should have gotten right the first time I had NO PROBLEM under warranty with getting everything addressed. One time I had the dealer tell me Gulfstream declined some items so I called the service rep at the factory - he immediately told me to go ahead he had approved all... sometimes the dealer is the issue as much or more than Gulfstream.

Additionally, my Mother-In-Law just purchased a new Fleetwood motorhome and she is having the exact same kind of issues... so as many have said, unfortunately the problems are with all brands - not just Gulfstream. For me, I still really like the SuperNova and am overall pleased with the purchase.
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:40 PM   #8
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Craig, glad to read the Forum was of help when you experienced the problem.. the senior members who are owners swear by the forum as a means to keep
each other involved with our units, and for the most part, we are total cheerleaders!

I think in the case of brake controllers, the onus was clearly on International- I think they have a bad batch of controllers out there, and should have made the
manufacturer own up to it and do a national recall if it was proven to be bad, and have the manufacturer deal with the issue, as opposed to having we owners break
down in the middle of east japip and have to be towed, as I did, (and I might add, in a 5 inch snowstorm!" Thankfully, it was a warranty repair.

We're in the midst of our annual big trip, be at St Louis tomorrow-

Travel safely!

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Old 06-06-2011, 09:16 PM   #9
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Uh oh... I picked up my new-to-me RV yesterday. As we were going through it and learning all the systems, I think we may have run into this same problem. We were not even driving at the time, just sitting and idling with the parking brake on. We didn't get a buzzer like you guys, so I don't know if the systems are different. But the dash started beeping at us, got the red "Brake Pressure" idiot light at the top middle of the dash, the yellow "ABS" light just to the right of it, and the yellow "Brake" light just to the right of the bottom center of the dash. (all in addition to the standard parking brake light that was on correctly)

Turned off and reset the RV many times with no effect. When turning on the ignition, the same first two lights would stay on, the ABS pump would make the clicking pumping sound for about 5 seconds and then stop, and then about 30 seconds later the final yellow "Brake" light would come on and start beeping at me.

Then maybe an hour later restarted again with no problem. The ABS kept pumping for about 20 seconds on startup and the brake pressure and ABS lights went out. Drove for 20 minutes to Wal Mart no problem, shut down, and then 20 minutes back just fine. Was late, so we went to bed. This morning, it started fine again, and I drove to the International service center, where I had an appointment anyway for a few minor items. They did a full electronic diagnostic, ($150!!!) which did show a problem with the ABS controller. So the service manager is calling the ABS company to find out about replacing the controller. Said he wasn't sure if it would be under warranty, but he thought it would.

So my question to you guys is, those of you that had this problem, was it under your standard Gulf Stream warranty? My coach is 3 years old, (and I'm not the original owner) so I don't have that warranty active. Is there a separate warranty for the international truck portion, though, and would I be covered under that? Any experience or info that I can pass on to my International service center on this issue so that I can get the best results here?

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Old 06-06-2011, 09:39 PM   #10
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My understanding is that Meritor put a lifetime warranty on the controller. That's for parts - the labor is whatever the standard warranty is. Mine was about 1 year and 3 months and they covered it 100%. My International service manager said that part is $4000 if you had to buy it... Good luck - Hope you get the labor covered as well!
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