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Old 11-04-2006, 08:37 PM   #11
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DJQUALLS, was that 92 page manual that you linked me to the same one you got with your unit? Did you get a manual for the motor, tranny, tires, and dashboard separate? We don't really know what we are missing. We do have a bunch however the ones we really need are gone or never existed. Its funny because I am not big on reading directions but this thing is impossible to figure out on your own.
I have a manuals for c-7 engine. XC chasis and Allison Transmission. I have info on the tires as well as many of the components like jacks, hvac, Water heater, Sat Dish, and other stuff. My coach is still in Elkhart at Mastertech but is is now ready to pickup as of today.

When I get the coach back I can detail out to you...
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:20 AM   #12
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Welcome Johnnie & Adrian!

The information provided is SUPERB! I'll merely summerize the steps I would (do) go through in the event of power problems:

1. Always check that both disconnects are "on". I hear a "chirp" from somewhere when I click mine on (one of the bulbs has failed).

2. Next, get your generator running. The assumption is that the house batteries are dead also (or will be). The generator will charge the house battery. Pressing the "battery" switch on the dash before the generator is running can discharge the house battery. Then the generator can't be started either. If you can't start the generator, you must provide shore power, even if merely 120 volt AC/ 20 amp in order to charge those batteries.

3. The next step (with the generator still running) would be the dash mounted battery switch, held for a little while.

4. Next would be the ignition to start your engine, which will rapidly recharge the engine battery. I would let go of the dash battery switch once your engine is running.

Note 1: Under certain conditions (& equipment), the engine charging system will automatically recharge the house batteries &/or vice-versa. I don't count on that however, because there are logic conditions involved that are undocumented in the GS literature.

Note 2: There is a condition that I have never heard discussed, but which just happened to me. You need to understand the wiring between your toad and your MH. My towing wiring was installed by a NON-GS service center, but likely wouldn't have mattered. When I stop for the night, the Apollo brake equipment continues to drain my auto battery. Also, the ashtray lamp apparently remains illuminated because of the cord. Bottom line is that in 2 days of travel, my car is stone dead. I had paid the dealer to install a 7-pin connector so that a battery charge circuit was available between car & MH, but it didn't work. He failed to provide a ground between both chassis. (The tail light circuits on the toad are independant, powered separately from the MH when activated). The purpose of the battery charge circuit was to make up for the brake system power usage. I thought it would be a good idea, if done correctly.

To temporarily correct the problem of the non-starting auto engine, I connected my jumper cable between both chassis to complete that missing ground circuit, & went to sleep. In the morning, I still couldn't start the car, plus the MH engine battery was too low to start the MH engine. Thankfully, the generator was running. I preessed the battery button. The MH engine was able to come to life, & after a short wait, the car battery was charged enough to start that engine.

Lesson learned: Your toad power system can be either your friend or your enemy depending on what is connected & how.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:28 PM   #13
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Here is the link to Allison Transmission site where you can download the 3000 series owners manual. It is a PDF file/Adobe Reader and it takes some time to download on a dial up connection.

After you download it, don't forget to click on "Save" to save it to your puter.

Allison 3000 Series Owners Manual:
http://www.allisontransmission.com/publ ... 3349EN.jsp

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Old 11-09-2006, 01:07 PM   #14
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Holy Cow, Ron, you're up to 321 posts! I'm afraid I must concede.
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Old 11-09-2006, 04:30 PM   #15
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Holy Cow, Ron, you're up to 321 posts! I'm afraid I must concede.
Now don't expect a speech like the canidates did at the election win.

Also, don't expect me to slow down or stop. I just love to share my experiences with everyone and I have a lot of opinions.

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Old 11-10-2006, 06:10 AM   #16
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Thanks Ron for all of your posts

Not just myself but lots of us on this forum are lucky that you enjoy sharing information and researching problems. And taking time to add the links is a blessing for me. I still work every day and have rental property too. My time is very limited, and I just can't spend the time researching info. I have no manuals for chassis, engine, or transmission. As soon as I have time I will use your links and try to get them, if available for our 1997 model year.

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Old 11-10-2006, 08:17 AM   #17
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Thanks Kevin, but really it doesn't take me that long to usually find the links to research some problems.

Most of the answers are already on some of the other RV forums that I belong to and read on a daily basis.

But like you pointed out, I am retired and have more time on my hands than many do so I keep myself busy by doing what I can to help.

I think this forum is great for Gulf Stream owners and I want to keep it active and growing. I just wish that we could get Gulf Stream Coach involved. But that is never going to happen until the petition is completed and that issue can be put to rest.

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